PODCAST - Ep. 111: Heavenly Delusion vol 1 by Masakazu Ishiguro
You've watched the anime, now enjoy the manga!
The season is coming to a close, and David gives us his final pick: Masakazu Ishiguro’s Heavenly Delusion. Heavenly Delusion is a sci-fi (comedy?) manga that has a huge fan-following, thanks to its great art and story AND an anime too! But will that be enough to make the Mangasplaining crew fans of it too? Listen on and find out!
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Heavenly Delusion vol. 1
by Masakazu Ishiguro
Translated by: Ko Ransom
Production: Nicole Dochych
Digital: Taneli Vatanen
Published by Denpa. Available in print / digital
Audio editing by David Brothers. Show notes by Christopher Woodrow-Butcher and Deb Aoki
BEFORE WE GET STARTED
Some real audio problems this week, but David did an amazing job fixing it so that it shouldn’t be TOO noticeable. Thanks, David!
SPOILERS in this episode for Heavenly Delusion, but also in the shout-outs Deb spoils THE SUMMER HIKARU DIED, out of nowhere, lol.
[DEB:] Sorry. >_>
So, anyway — at least we gave you an early heads up on that, right?
ABOUT MASAKAZU ISHIGURO
Masakazu Ishiguro was born in Fukui Prefecture on September 8th, 1977. A fan of manga from an early age, he cites watching the anime film AKIRA as a child as having had a major influence on his work. He decided to be a manga artist from a young age, graduating from the Osaka University of Arts in 2001.
Prior to graduating though, he had his manga breakthrough in 2000 with the one-shot Hero, submitted to Kodansha's Monthly Afternoon Magazine. Ishiguro took home the Afternoon Shiki Award (Four Seasons Award) for that work. Ishiguro's work has also won numerous other awards, including the Manga Taisho, The Japan Media Arts Festival manga prize, the Seiun Award, the Tezuka Osamu Cultural Prize, a Japan Expo Award, and has topped the best manga lists of DaVinci magazine and Kono Manga ga Sugoi (This Manga is Awesome, an annual list of the most notable new manga) --twice!
While many of his early works came from the sci-fi genre, Ishiguro is possibly best known for his comedies; particularly the Japan Media Arts Award winning And Yet The Town Moves (18 Volumes, Shonen Gahosha, Untranslated).
[DEB:] A little context here. That's not quite true about it not being “untranslated”/ not available in English. And Yet the Town Moves was previously published in English via the short-lived J-Manga website (2010-2013), and yes, when you look for it on eBook stores like Kindle and Apple Books, it’s not listed at all. HOWEVER, it is available to read in English on Manga Planet, as SoreMachi: And Yet The Town Moves -- so go check it out there. Back to Chris for the rest on seeing more of Ishiguro's stories in English...
His most recent release in English is today's title, Heavenly Delusion (9 volumes, ongoing, originally from Kodansha), with the one-shot volume Sky Grazer released as a digital title from Kodansha, and the And Yet The Town Moves anime got a Western release from Sentai Filmworks.
Despite not having a ton of work in English, Ishiguro seemingly has a very involved fanbase in the Western world! When we posted that we would be covering Heavenly Delusion on BlueSky, our mutual Theozilla replied enthusiastically:
There's a discord dedicated to Ishiguro's works that holds a lot of [interesting trivia about Heavenly Delusion] (such as this useful character chart for the expansive cast of characters) discord.gg/4MzXK3uH
-@Theozilla on BlueSky
I haven't headed to that Discord yet, click that link at your own risk, but if that's something you're interested in it sounds pretty cool! Theozilla also sent us a link to this very rare English language interview conducted with the author by Lynzee Loveridge at Anime News Network last year. It's a good little interview, check it out!
[DEB:] Perhaps not as well-known, but Ishiguro WAS a guest at a N. American anime convention a few years ago -- he attended New York Comic-Con in 2013, where he was interviewed by Brigid Alverson for MTV Geek. Too bad that the photos / images seem to be broken, but at least the interview is still there to read.
ABOUT HEAVENLY DELUSION VOL. 1
Here's what Denpa has to say about Heavenly Delusion Volume 1:
Within the safety of the walls, youths are raised in a nursery-style setting by robots. While life there may appear stale on the surface, the children are full of potential and curiosity. In many ways it is like a slice of heaven. The outside world is a hell-scape. It is almost entirely void of anything mechanical and is now inhabited by bizarre, yet powerful super-natural beings.
Maru, with the aid of Kiruko, is out there crisscrossing what was once Tokyo searching for heaven. But after searching for so long, maybe heaven is more of an untenable dream than a potential reality.
-Denpa Publishing
00:55 I’m sure David is referencing church here, but I choose to believe he is referencing the beginning of Prince’s Let’s Go Crazy.
03:51 We've covered a few titles by Denpa, including Episode 88: Under Ninja and the title we reference here, Invitation from a Crab by Panpanya.
05:00 To be clear, trawling weird websites for scanlated manga was 15 years ago, back when it was closer to fan-translations and free distribution, and further away from crappy websites driven by advertising revenue that are looking to circumvent copyright.
09:00 If you're new here (hi!), you might not know that Katsuhiro Otomo's manga series AKIRA is the title that gives structure to our podcast, being the series that we kicked off the podcast with and we return to at the end of every season. For more on both creator and creation, there are 4 episodes to listen to on Otomo's Akira here on the podcast, and I've written probably 10,000 words on it in show notes. And another one coming next episode too.
But here’s an example of some of those faces in Heavenly Delusion that have some Otomo vibes.
Here's a group that Chip later calls "Otomo by way of Daniel Clowes" which is hilarious and spot-on:
It's funny, we actually ragged pretty hard on the shitty otaku rapist dudes that Otomo drew in Akira volume 4 (and throughout the rest of the series):
11:46 The environmental drawings in Heavenly Delusion really are quite lovely and add a lot to the setting and scenery.
13:29 One of the many reasons that I enjoy listening back to the podcast (Hi, it's Chris) after being on it, is catch the real weight of Chip describing the reveal of the boy Maru's powers being done in a very matter-of-fact way, whereas in a Marvel comic you'd need to do things much differently, probably with splash pages and things.
It's very manga, lots of moment-to-moment panels, and the drama and the intensity is of course still there. But yeah, there's no splash, the reveal is subtle but then keeps surprising by showing how the power is working. I've never seen a 'psychic' power depicted that way before.
15:07 Funny or horrifying? Or both? This sequence where a woman is convinced that the gruesome beast above won't hurt her is... well, it's certainly something isn't it?
15:40 Yeah, elephant in the room, there’s some underage nudity in this book. It's not gratuitous to the story, IMHO, and we go through it and what it means pretty clearly I think? Room for disagreement though.
Of course, we're not dumb enough to include it in the show-notes, are we?
24:00 Deb references a few manga that Heavenly Delusion called to mind for her, specifically The Promised Neverland by Kaiu Shirai and Posuka Demizu and published by VIZ/Shonen Jump, and Brutal by Kei Koga on Comikey. The former is about a group of kids in a facility with no access to the outside world, much like half of Heavenly Delusion. The latter though captures some of the girsly brutality and gore of certain series...
26:16 Another reference? The lady up top getting sliced in half recalled a building getting sliced in half from another David pick, Episode 104: Blood Blockade Battlefront. That clean slice is a hell of visual, and manga and anime do it so, so well.
31:00 Christopher references two manga titles that Heavenly Delusion reminded him of, Bokurano: Ours and ShadowStar, both by the mangaka Mohiro Kitoh. Bokurano features a group of children who 'test a game' and enter a contract, which ends up with them piloting giant robots and also dying, one at a time. (Okay, that's a spoiler too, but it's revealed pretty early on in the story...) It's a heavy, heavy series, but it did very well in Japan. All 11 volumes were released in English by VIZ Media, as was the anime television series!
While searching for info here, I noticed that the first link on the Wikipedia page for Bokurano: Ours was... me. And Deb. Apparently, back in like 2010, I didn't like it very much. Haha, blast from the past there. Shadowstar got an aborted run from Dark Horse back in the early 2000s due to low sales and/or the content getting a bit more seinen than they were expecting for a story about a girl riding a flying alien starfish. Lots seinen content in seinen manga, watch out.
And... yeah, this whole section of our chat got a bit heavy, but there's some surprisingly heavy stuff in this book, and more to come down the road. It kinda looks like it might be a teen-friendly work, and I think for the right teenager it would be, but it's also got some stuff that would probably merit content warnings for a lot of readers.
33:00 So let's lighten things up with jokes! There are a ton of funny moments in Heavenly Delusion, even a few COL moments (chuckle-out-loud). For example, I forgot it during the podcast, but I loved this sight-gag that ties into the Yakuza manga we've been reading and talking about. "Wow, this house is really nice!"
It belonged to a Yakuza Syndicate. Heh. David on the other hand, goes right to... The Incest Joke. David's favourite gag in the book.
David also really liked the way the kid who fell while climbing bounced, and then looked up at everyone with an aw-shucks sort of vibe.
Another fave moment is the judo throw so the one boy can talk to the other he has a crush on:
Chip and Deb both just loved the dark humor of the head-slicing, as seen above. But don't worry, it's not all darkness! The bit where the girl prunes the foliage growing out of the toilet so she can use it is also a humorous image.
And finally, there's this moment where someone tries to be very cool while saying something that implies that they... aren't. :)
37:45 We've mentioned illustrator and manga creator Hisashi Eguchi on the podcast before, as David really likes his stuff. Eguchi got his start in manga, making his debut in Shonen Jump all the way back in in 1977(!). His biggest hit is the sex-comedy Stop!! Hibari-kun! but his manga output has dwindled over the years, as he moved into illustration full-time. Eguchi is renowned for being one of Japan's foremost cute-girl illustrators, and the cute faces on display in Heavenly Delusion remind David more of his work than of Otomo's.
Luckily I found a review of a Hisashi Eguchi artbook online at Halcyon Realms, and I think that this will give you a sense of what Eguchi's current work is like, and what David means.
38:35 I've also previously mentioned Carla Speed McNeil’s Finder, a far future science-fiction story about a world that’s rebuilding after tremendous loss. It’s set at an indeterminate point in the future, and so some of the things that the current society doesn’t know how to do like repair or rebuild the giant dome that protects their cities from solar radiation, for example. But some things from the past have endured in this world, like styles of music that we love today. It’s a really interesting science fiction series, and it’s collected in a couple of big library editions from Dark Horse.
41:00 Switching to discussing the artwork in the book, Chip mentions that the scenery and world-building through establishing shots and background pages is really nice. Specifically, page 53, with the road signs and crosswalk markings crumbling, and nature coming through them.
43:00 And for those of you looking for this specific image, here's the bad guys who look like they're Otomo meets Dan Clowes again. Haha.
44:30 Tomato Heaven, we keep mentioning this, and it’s a really good reveal in the book and we don’t want to spoil it, which is why I haven’t included any shots of it, or what it all means. But tomatoes are a hell of a theme in this first volume, with tomato imagery appearing more than once. I wonder what that's about? I wonder if it continues through the rest of the series?
But then we keep going off topic to talk about tomatoes, so please enjoy this photo of a fruit cup which also features cherry tomatoes, that I purchased from the convenience store downstairs JUST for these show notes, but of course I will also eat the fruit:
And what better note to go out on than this quote? Is this why we're not on the back of any books yet?
“Someone should Maze Runner this shit into the ground.”
-Christopher Woodrow Butcher and David Brothers
52:54 THE BREAK
And now it's time for Shout-outs!
DEB shouts-out the new manga The Summer Hikaru Died! WITH HUGE SPOILERS! So uh, sorry about that? Lol. Anyway, The Summer Hikaru Died is a new ongoing manga series by Mokumokuren, published in English by Yen Press. Three volumes are currently available, and it's already won a ton of awards and got a LOT of attention in Japan.
CHRISTOPHER (that's me!) recommends the manga Summertime Rendering by Yasuki Tanaka and published in English by UDON Entertainment. It is a suspense/thriller/horror manga set on a beautiful tropical island in Japan, with some great suspense, a few funny gags, sexy characters, and more. I think it's good enough that the Mangasplaining crew would probably really dig it, actually, but I'm always a bit anxious about recommending books by people I work for. Still, recommended if you wanna check it out.
I also recommend this hilarious short story, the first chapter of Skygrazer by Masakazu Ishiguro. It's available for free on the Kodansha website (first chapters are always free) and while it's secretly an introduction to a much larger story, it works perfectly on its own.
And now, the secret reveal to CHIP's shout-out from last week... It turns out he really liked the non-fiction book Doppelganger by Naomi Klein! It apparently explains a lot of what's going on in society right now, which would be welcome, I feel. Maybe time to add another book I can't get around to reading to the Kindle... :-/
He also recommended the 1983 film King of Comedy starring Robert De Niro and directed by Martin Scorsese (not to be confused with the 1999 King of Comedy movie directed by Stephen Chow). The 1983 one features Jerry Lewis and Sandra Bernhart.
I'd watch that. I mean, who knows if it'll come anywhere close to Sandra Bernhart's majestic performance in Hudson Hawk, but...
DAVID saw The Creator, and didn’t love it. But really liked the juxtaposition of the two trailers for The Marvels and Killers of the Flower Moon. Let's run all three then?
But his actual shout-out was for the concept of “get used to being bad at something, there are no consequences.” I think that's probably good advice. :)
NEXT TIME ON MANGASPLAINING:
We go back to the one that started us on Chip’s journey of manga discovery – that’s right, we’re now up to AKIRA vol. 5 by Katsuhiro Otomo!
After this, we’ve only got one more volume of AKIRA to go! WHAT WILL WE PICK FOR OUR NEXT BIG READ?!!! Hm. We’ll figure that out then? Maybe? (sweat drop)
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Woah what happened to Dave’s recording in the very end? 😅
Nice episode!
I tried the manga "before it was cool" and just couldn't. It didn't hold my attention at all. However, I was intrigued, so I watched the anime when it came out. It's enjoyable! The head slice was 100% not played as a gag in the anime. It was gutting. Also, the horrible scene that happens later on... I felt it coming and sped ahead, and it was thankfully a short, implied moment. Looks like they toned it down for the show, thank goodness.
It's also much like Utena, in that you can definitely guess what it's about, but you won't really know until later on!